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The United States has no legal or moral authority to bomb or attack Syria and they are chemical war criminals themselves, on a much grander scale than an other country in history. The US media has no problem with the fact that their leaders obtained positions of power by guaranteeing they would follow the rule of law but have become worse war criminals than their predecessors. In an interview with the Voice of Russia renown author Dr. Edward Herman discussed these matters and more.

Dr. Edward Herman

Hello! This is John Robles, I’m speaking with Dr. Edward Herman. He is Professor Emeritus at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. He is also the author of several books, namely “Manufacturing Consent”, which he wrote with Noam Chomsky, and the “Srebrenica Massacre: Evidence, Context, Politics”.

Robles: Hello Sir! It is a pleasure to be speaking with you again.

Herman: Good to be with you, John.

Robles: Regarding this situation in Syria, does the US in your opinion have the legal authority to launch military action or bomb Syria?

Herman:That’s one of the clearest things we can say “no” to. They certainly do not. The UN was organized to prevent war, aggression, cross-border attacks by individuals – it is very clear. And in fact, the Nuremberg Tribunal, should you actually read this: “war is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world. To initiate a war of aggression therefore is not only an international crime, it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole”. That’s from the Nuremberg Tribunal.

So, the whole UN system was built in order to prevent war, to make it illegal to cross borders without the vote of the Security Council. And the only basis for crossing a border otherwise is immediate self-defense. And there is no way that Syria is threatening the United States, and that it doesn’t even pretend that it has anything to do with self-defense of the United States.

So, the answer is absolutely no, the legal status is non-existent. And if you read Secretary John Kerry’s and Obama’s statements, only the media picked up the fact, in past years they have both said that they will abide by International Law. International Law controls this great country’s behavior. But now that they are in power and want to go to war, they say that they are not constrained by this, they can just go across borders and bomb.

It is just amazing! And it is amazing how the mainstream media of the United States don’t pick this subject up. It’s since the United States is regularly crossing borders and attacking other countries in violation of the UN Charter, the media played down, they play as if this is not an issue. It is only when somebody else, one of our targets crosses a border that we get excited.

Robles: I see. Following that line of thought, I read recently… now this goes back to 2002, and I was wondering if you could comment on it. I read a piece of legislation in the US Government, some people called it the Hague Invasion Act. Are you familiar with that?

Herman:Uh-huh.

Robles: It protects all US personnel and allies from being subjected to International Law basically or being tried for war crimes. And it allows for, literally, a military action against the Hague which would require an invasion to physically remove, for example if they’ve arrested somebody. Can you comment on it?

Herman:It was a brazen piece of legislation. In fact I think that was the time they were discussing the International Criminal Court. And in the International Criminal Court it was theoretically going to be possible that the United States and its soldiers and leaders could be brought before the Court. And that got some of the members of the Congress and Senate very upset. So, they actually got through this incredible piece of legislation that if anybody tried to take one of our soldiers and try them, we would be prepared to invade that country. It was a lunatic piece of legislation and I doubt if it ever would be applied, but it shows the spirit of this country – we are above the Law.

Our leaders have impunity … in fact, Harry Truman made this famous statement that “the buck stops with him”. This is not true! Impunity starts with him. Here is a man who dropped two atomic bombs on two cities and wiped out quickly 200 000 civilians. I mean, this was one of the great war crimes in human history. But nobody has ever suggested that Harry should have been brought before a tribunal. And of course George Bush and these guys, they’re all immune. Bush in his autobiography openly acknowledges that he supported waterboarding, which is a well-known form of torture…

Robles: Yes, since the Korean war.

Herman:…which is internationally illegal, it is illegal in the US law. But Obama comes along having promised to enforce the law, but he won’t bring George Bush to trial. So, all these guys are immune from the law, they have impunity. This is the superpower right to have impunity. Only lesser peoples can be brought before a court.

Robles: Back to Syria, does the United States, do they have the moral authority and the support of the American people to launch any kind of an operation against Syria?

Herman:I don’t think they have the moral authority in the least. And in fact this whole business of pursuing of Syria, first, it is not even proven that the Syrian Government used chemical weapons. But even apart from that, the hypocrisy involved in this is amazing.

As the United States Government committed aggression against Iraq, it has used chemical weapons itself during the Vietnam War, the United States have used Agent Orange. In fact, its use of chemical weapons in the Vietnam War was the most extensive use of chemical weapons since World War I.

And we of course supported Iraq when it used chemical warfare against Iran. We even supplied Iraq with various kinds of arms, protected against being attacked in the United Nations, and were attacking our enemy – Iran. So, it was okay. And they were, actually, recently sold I think 600 some million dollars’ worth of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia. And of course Israel famously used a huge number of cluster bombs in Lebanon in 2006, just before the truce. The cluster bomb is a vicious, essentially illegal weapon.

So, here is the United States doing all these horrible things, including chemical warfare, using white phosphorus in Fallujah, depleted uranium. It has dirty hands. The moral case falls because of this incredible hypocrisy. And the American people don’t go on the offensive - this other part of your question - does it have support at home, and the answer is – in spite of the huge propaganda effort that the Government and the media are carrying out, I think it still only 60% of the polled public is against attacking Syria. The public doesn’t want it. The moral case is badly compromised. So, it is really an outrage.

Robles: Thank you very much Dr. Herman. It was a pleasure speaking with you.

Herman: It was good to be on John.

Robles: Okay, thank you Sir, I appreciate it.

That was the end of part one of an interview with Dr. Edward Herman – a Professor Emeritus of Finance at the Wharton School, at the University of Pennsylvania and the author of “Manufacturing Consent”. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at voiceofrussia.com

The world has been in a quandary since the events of 9-11 after the initial support that flowed from the hearts of the world’s populace to the United States faded and they watched America commit international crime after international crime. Including several instances of the worst crimes known to man: crimes against peace, crimes against humanity and launching wars of aggression.

The illegality does not stop there, it includes everything from the massive illegal spying we have heard about recently, to the arrest of citizens of other countries, to situations like the one that Julian Assange has found himself in.

In an interview with the Voice of Russia, Doctor Edward Herman, the famous American author who exposed the fabrications by the United States and its “allies” of the Srebrenica Massacre, the pretext for the first illegal American war of aggression under the guise of a humanitarian intervention, against Serbia, commented on what he called a “lunatic piece of legislation”, a US law which in facts cements American impunity under its own system.

With the illegal invasion or “military strikes” on Syria that the United States is threatening and the recent threat of terrorist attacks on Russia by Saudi Arabia, both almost unprecedented acts of brazen illegality, intelligent, informed and peace-loving people are trying to make sense of it. How is it that they can behave with such impunity? Where is the rule of law and the international community? Well the answer is they have literally been terrorized into silence.

The “tool of terror” is a US law that the US Government passed giving itself the right to attack an international court or country, such as the International Criminal Court in the Hague, if anyone attempts to bring an American official or service member to trial for international crimes. In effect giving themselves complete impunity.

Dr. Herman had this to say about the law: “It was a brazen piece of legislation. I think that was the time they were discussing the International Criminal Court. And in the International Criminal Court it was going to be theoretically possible that the United States’ soldiers and leaders could be brought before the court. And that got some of members of the Congress and Senate very upset”.

“So, they actually got though this incredible piece of legislation that if anybody tried to take one of our soldiers and try him, we would be prepared to invade that country. It was a lunatic piece of legislation and I doubt if it ever would be applied, but it shows the spirit of this country: we are above the law.”

The law in question can only be likened to a situation such as if a maniac-terrorist-bomber-killer-rapist-kidnapper said: “If you come after us we will bomb you”. This is not an exaggeration but in fact an understatement. The law which has had almost no attention internationally, is basically and in all practically, a blackmail letter. An open threat of violence if anyone dares to attempt to hold American criminals to account.

The law is called “The American Service-Members' Protection Act (ASPA)” and when we look at all of the illegality that the US Government has been involved over the last decade, against the backdrop of this “law”, the reason they have behaved with such impunity while not only committing crimes against humanity but while practicing rendition, torture, kidnap, extra-judicially executiions, indefinite detention, spying on and so on, we can clearly understand why they have complete and total disregard for the laws and norms that the rest of the world lives by.

ASPA was signed by war criminal George Bush himself and came into power on August 2, 2002 and is designed to: "… protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party".

ASPA authorizes the US President to use “all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any US or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”.

The law has been called “The Hague Invasion Act” because in order to “free” U.S. citizens by force, an invasion of The Hague, Netherlands, the seat of the International Criminal Court (ICC), other international courts and the Dutch Government, would be necessary.

The Act prohibits federal, state and local governments and agencies (including courts and law enforcement agencies) from assisting the ICC or any other court and prohibits the extradition of any individual from the United States to the court in question; it prohibits the transfer of classified national security information and law enforcement information to such a body and it prohibits agents of the court from conducting investigations in the United States.

The Act also prohibits U.S. military aid to countries that are party to the Court. However, exceptions are allowed for aid to NATO members, major non-NATO allies, Taiwan, and countries which have entered into “Article 98 agreements”, agreeing not to hand over U.S. nationals to the Court. The President may waive this prohibition if he determines that to do so is “important to the national interest of the United States”.

So that is it. If you try to bring American war criminals to trial, or expose war crimes, like Julian Assange and Bradley Manning, you are finished and so is any country that does the same thing. So I guess anyone interested in the rule of law can quietly go and kill themselves now.

In related news the Syrian Government, in an attempt to rid the country of America’s Al-Qaeda cannibal brigades, and I am not making light of the gravity of the situation but characterizing them for what they are, has offered rewards to anyone who can help capture foreign mercenaries and terrorists.

As reported by ITAR-TASS the Syrian Government stated in a television address that for each foreign terrorist that is captured,  500,000 Syrian pounds ($4,000) will be paid to their captor and, for information on their whereabouts or for assisting with their apprehension 200,000 pounds.

The Syrian government has guaranteed that informants will remain anonymous and will be protected. The question is whether these terrorists, being funded, armed, trained and imported by the US are considered allies. In which case the court and country in question may be subject to invasion etc.

By enacting such legislation and committing crimes against humanity and against the international community, such as continual acts of aggressive war, the United States has placed itself outside the law, literally. It would not be a stretch to say that they have gone too far and something must be done.

The views and opinions expressed here are my own. I can be reached at jar2@jar2.com.

As the world sits glued to their radios and TV screens and their other sources of information waiting for news of an attack on Syria other events are taking place that the nefarious planners in Mclean Virginia and Washington have successfully distracted the world’s attention from. At the cost of a couple of hundred Syrian lives, which in reality mean nothing for the Americans and their Al-Qaeda elements in Syria, the US has perhaps yet failed to launch another act of aggression and commit another crime against peace, but it has succeeded in accomplishing several other objectives.

Of the four “core international crimes” (crimes of aggression, crimes against humanity, genocide and war crimes) as determined by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, the treaty which founded the International Criminal Court (ICC), the United States of America is guilty of all of them.

Crime against peace

In international law a crime against peace is defined as the “planning, preparation, initiation, or waging of wars of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing". The word participation means that any country that goes along with such a crime is also guilty of the same crime as the aggressor, this includes any third countries that allow for their airspace or territory to be used to launch an attack on a third state..

It is clear given the preponderance of evidence that the US attacks on Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and now the planned attack on Syria are all crimes against peace and would be prosecuted if there was a body with the will to do so.

Crimes against humanity

Under international law another type of crime that the United States may be guilty of committing on multiple occasions and which many accuse the US of carrying out in its execution of its “War on Terror”, are crimes against humanity. These crimes are defined as "particularly odious offenses in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of human beings." The systematic persecution of one racial group by another, as is the case with American blacks, would be eligible for this classification.

It is arguable whether for example, the targeting of Muslims as a group, the extra judicial executions of suspected terrorists by drone, rendition, illegal detention and torture would, by themselves, meet the litmus test for being classified as crimes against humanity, but there can be little doubt that all of these crimes put together as part of a continual concerted effort in which the participants know they are committing violations of human rights, international law, the Geneva Conventions, the laws of war and other international laws and conventions, could and should be classified as crimes against humanity.

It might be argued that those behind, or in collusion with, the perpetrators of 9-11, or even those who failed to prosecute the perpetrators are also guilty of crimes against humanity, especially the consequences that those events have had on the world since that date.

War crimes

An area where there is little area for debate as to the collusion and guilt of the United States is in the area of war crimes. War crimes are generally defined as including: "murder, the ill-treatment or deportation of civilian residents of an occupied territory to slave labor camps (Guantanamo, rendition sites, Abu-Ghraib, etc), the murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war, the killing of prisoners (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria), the wanton destruction of cities, towns and villages (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya), and any devastation not justified by military, or civilian necessity (all of the previous and in particular Syria).

The US Government’s institutionalized collusion in war crimes, including torture, the use of chemical weapons and indefinite detention under conditions amounting to torture have been very well documented and proven time and time again. The persecution and prosecution of Bradley Manning serving as the best example, as well as the evidence that he revealed.

Genocide

No one has called the, what could be millions, of Sunni Muslims and others killed in the illegal US wars genocide but if the numbers are in fact in the millions this would be valid.

The fact that the United States was founded on the genocide of the American Indians, something no one has ever been prosecuted for. The continuing practice of keeping the few Indians that are left living on “reservations” essentially prison zones, would be classified as a crime against humanity but no one is willing to or calling for anything to be done.

Other crimes

The number of other crimes committed by the United States since 9-11 would fill volumes and include everything from droning, to extra-judicial executions, bringing about and causing revolutions and political instability, economic manipulation, repression of dissent and protestors, attacks on media and whistleblowers and others. However the largest and most egregious offense with a truly global reach involves the revelations by Edward Snowden. It is chiefly these revelations and the backlash that the United States has avoided by threatening the world with an even greater crime. You would not tell a murderer that you have caught as he is hacking his victim to death that his car is illegally parked now can you?

Who will prosecute?

The International Criminal Court or ICC is the body that has the authority to prosecute these crimes and is supposed to do so if states can not or will not act, however they do not have arrest powers and along with the United Nations they are largely under the complete control of the United States.

So there are certainly bodies with the authority to prosecute and rein in the criminality but until they possess the independence and are pushed into taking action nothing will be done.

This has led to movements in the United States for example to prosecute George Bush for murder, for example, something easier to prove than war crimes and prosecutable in a US court, but no one has been able to pursue these attempts to a successful conclusion and apparently there is not a single body willing to arrest these criminals.

Distraction and avoidance of response

The initial response that the United States was spying on the United Nations and on allies was quickly dwarfed by the media sensation around Edward Snowden, the forced landing of the presidential aircraft of Evo Morales and now the “impending invasion” of Syria.

The initial reaction from European countries was to freeze all economic and business cooperation, when it was revealed that the United States was spying on and collecting economic, banking and financial information from even its allies in order to manipulate their markets, something that should have been a key topic for debate at the G-20, but it has successfully been for the most part ignored. This goes for other matters that the G-20 countries may have reached a consensus on as well.

Demonizing

All of these events, as well as the threat of terrorist attacks at the upcoming Sochi Olympics by the Saudi Prince Bandar have been carefully orchestrated to demonize and vilify Russia and to detract from the success and leadership on the world stage that Russia is taking and will take if the G-20 Summit, the Sochi Olympics and the internal conflict in Syria are allowed to take place and be resolved successfully.

Experts and international observers agree that by attacking Syria the US is going after one of Russia’s allies in order to decrease Russia’s possible influence in the region, and that Obama is so unstable and was so upset by Russia’s legal protection of Edward Snowden that he decided, by bombing Syria he would punish Russia. Regardless of the reasoning. With imminent threat, or a UN Resolution, any attack on Syria is a crime against peace.

The US has successfully caused a serious rift with Russia and is something they continue to do. Statements that Russia supplied Syria with chemical weapons is beyond the pale but proves that the United States will do anything to attempt to paint Russia as some supporter of terror. This is ridiculous beyond words, when Russia has, since day one, promoted a political solution to the conflict and the United States has been importing terrorists and its Al-Qaeda elements into Syria to bring about their repeated goal of a forceful regime change in Damascus.

In light of the recent threat by Prince Bandar against the Russian people and the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin with terrorist attacks at the Sochi Olympics, while failing to bribe the head of state, and the admission by the rogue prince that the Saudis control the Chechen terrorist groups, it should be time for the world community to seriously question the legitimacy of these states.

Some analysts have stated that Russia has every right to level Saudi Arabia as it has threatened Russia with terrorist acts, and some say that this is a threat for which war could be declared, but Russia has so far maintained the high moral ground and refrained from bellicose rhetoric against the supporters of cannibal terrorists.

Even though Russia has every right to react in an extreme manner to such an outrageous unprecedented threat President Putin chooses to act in the most diplomatic and responsible way possible, and as the record shows, seek a diplomatic and peaceful resolution to even that affront.

The psychological aspects

The state of the world, waiting whether the US will launch another illegal war and attack yet another defenseless country that poses it no threat, is one on edge. This form of psychological terrorism, placing the world in fear of possible World War III, is beneficial for the United States as it distracts from other pressing issues that the world (outside the western media bubble) was beginning to wake up about.

The fear of war is powerful tool to control not only its own population but to control and spread fear into the hearts of the world’s peace-loving nations. However it is these nations that must unite and that is where the United States may have finally over stepped the bounds and wandered into unknown territory. Fear can cause unexpected reactions and terrorizing the world with the constant threat of a “humanitarian” attack may bring about events that the US does not expect and is not prepared for.

United front

It is a given, I believe, that if the US does in fact unilaterally decide to attack Syria it will galvanize the world community against them, especially those countries who know they are next in line for Washington’s nefarious regime change invasion plans.

Even the fact that Obama is even considering to move ahead without the UN or even wait for the results of the UN inspection on the alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria, is having the effect of uniting countries against the United States.

Unilateral war and bombing poor defenseless countries and dictating to the world how to run its affairs may play well for the violence loving political base back in America but quite frankly the world has grown weary of American bombs and American aggression.

Iraq never threatened America, nor did Afghanistan, nor did Libya, nor did Yugoslavia and finally nor has Syria.

The views and opinions expressed here are my own. I can be reached at jar2@jar2.com.

US Attack on Syria Will be a Historic Crime

Rick Rozoff

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Statesmen, diplomats, leaders and countries worldwide are condemning the United States for their obtuse and entirely self serving desire to launch military aggression against Syria, yet another small and almost defenseless nation that the US wants to decimate with their unparalleled military might as they continue to aggressively bomb and attack every nation that attempts to pursue any king of independent foreign or other policy. Voice of Russia regular Rick Rozoff adds his voice to the growing chorus of people worldwide who are calling on the aggressors to stand down and stop their madness.

Hello, this is John Robles, I’m speaking with Mr. Rick Rozoff, he’s a regular contributor for The Voice of Russia and the manager and owner of the Stop NATO website and an international mailing list.

Robles: Hello, Rick, how are you?

Rozoff: I am as concerned and as distressed, as I’m sure you and most of the world is currently knowing that we are on the precipice of what could be a disastrous military action by the United States in the Middle East.

Robles: Is it possible that somebody may, at the last moment, talk some sense into those beating-the-war-drums in Washington?

Rozoff: Certainly there have been efforts to do so. Even today such an unlikely person as the Secretary General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon who was known to have been the United States’ choice for that position and who has generally gone out of his way not to offend Washington in any way, nevertheless reminded the world community and the US, in particular, that there are only two justifications to taking military action against another country.

The first is Article 51 of U.N. Charter that if a country is in imminent danger of attack from the other country, that is self-defense and secondly, if there is authorization through the Security Council. Neither of those criteria, of course, applies in any manner to US plans for military attacks against Syria. That’s number one.

Number two, and I think that is not insignificant, this past Sunday in his weekly address in St. Peter’s Square Pope Francis I, the head of the largest religious organization in the world, the Roman Catholic Church with 1.2 billion adherents, called for an international day of fasting and prayer for peace in Syria. And making statements like, and this is from the press agencies, quotes of his talk, stated quote: “War, never again!” And also made the following statement “Violence never leads to peace. War leads to war, violence leads to violence,” this is an almost unprecedented statement by the religious leader by the largest religious faith in history, the Catholic Church.

And this Saturday he is going for an international day of prayer and fasting, not only for the world’s Catholics, his own flock, but other religious believers and even non-believers. That's number two.

Number three, a statement was quoted today by Interfax, the Russian press agency, quoting the Chairman of the Upper House of the Russian Parliament, the Federation Council’s Defense and Security Committee, Viktor Ozerov, and I am quoting him because it is worth getting these words out more broadly than I expect they have, and his quote says: "If we recognize the supremacy of international law and sovereignty of UN member states, the start of the U.S. military actions against Syria bypassing the U.N. Security Council could only mean one thing, another American aggression against an Arab state." More or less echoing, or paralleling the statements by Ban Ki-Moon.

He further over went on to list what this means in terms of escalation of a long-term pattern, and again this is Ozerov speaking, "The aftermath of the U.S. aggressive operations are still fresh in our memory; Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya... The list could be extended. No arguments can be accepted here in defense of democracy or human rights." As the alleged purpose of those wars, my comment.

And he goes on to say, "What is really happening is that Washington cannot agree that countries exist that do not dance to its tune or play by its rules." That’s the end of the quote by the Russian senator. And that, I think That hits it pretty squarely on the head and gets to the gist of the issue.

Syria's crime is not kowtowing to the United States, capitulating to it. And any other countries, and there aren’t many currently, that have the courage to maintain an independent foreign policy, that have close state-to-state diplomatic economic and military ties, with nations like Russia and China, who are also targeted in this.

And in a way how I envision it, John, is that you have the US, as a wolf outside of a pen of sheep and it's selecting them one by one, as to which it's going to devour. And as long as the sheep permit themselves to be picked off individually and sequentially, then all of them eventually are going to be victims.

And what's needed at this point is what even the otherwise fairly timid Ban Ki-Moon has reminded the world of, that at the most the use of military aggression by one state against another and certainly not one which has military superiority that’s almost incalculable, like the United States vis-a-vis Syria, unless in immediate self-defense or with the U.N. Security Council authorization, neither of which is in the offing. And that is the sentiment of Senator Ozerov from the Federation Council, who said exactly the same thing. “That war outside the Security Council threatens the system of international law, the international global order.”

So I think, given the gravity of the situation and the almost unprecedented comments which I just shared with you, by the head of the United Nations, the head of world's largest religious faith and by the chairman of a key committee of the Upper House of the Russian Parliament, that we're looking at something quite serious right now, and that the world needs to be able to marshal all the resources it has; information, organization, moral resources, in order to combat the threat of a war against Syria, which could quite entirely possibly expand into something not only a regional conflict or conflagration, but into something that could be a global showdown.

We've already talked about this, John, repeatedly that the U.S. has exploited the Syrian crisis, to create a new Cold War with Russia, which is now simply indisputable, and on the heels of the cancelled meeting between Obama and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, the Edward Snowden affair and a number of other things. But what is resting at the base of it, is the U.S. exploiting the Syrian crisis to be berate, denigrate and threaten Russia.

We’ve heard some of the worst rhetoric coming out of Washington vis-a-vis Russia since the Cold War and even worse in certain ways, as we have has ample opportunity to discuss in the past.

So my plea would be that people take to heart very serious, the statements by Ban Ki-Moon, the statements by Viktor Ozerov, the statements by Pope Francis I and realize that something is so severe, so great, so historic at this point that all efforts have to be made between now and, say, the beginning of next week when there's likely to be a vote in both Houses of the U.S. Congress, that world public opinion has to tell Washington, both the legislative and executive branch, "No war! It's against the law internationally! It's a moral crime! And it's an historic crime that will be judged in that manner and its perpetrators will be held accountable!”

Robles: Ok, thank you, Rick! We're out of time! I really appreciate it!

Rozoff: Thank you, John!

The response by the world community and by billions of informed and intelligent people all over the globe, including those in the United States, to the latest calls by the leaders of the U.S., to launch yet another war of aggression against yet another country that has never posed a threat to it, has not been one that those obtusely insisting on bloodshed expected to be faced with.

No credibility

For the international community, after decades of fabrications for going to war, war crimes, violations of international law and conventions, blatant war profiteering, military buildup, torture, illegal detention and rendition, extra-judicial executions, massive illegal spying and the refusal to abide by international laws and norms, any military action proposed to be waged by the United States of America must be looked at with the highest degree of suspicion and must not be allowed to take place without a real and true independent international consensus based on law and evidence.

For Americans the reasons to view their government with suspicion are even more numerous: endless empty patriotic war rhetoric against defenseless nations, the destruction of, and complete disregard for, constitutional rights and protections, the failure to prosecute for war crimes and crimes exposed by whistleblowers, the criminalization and violent brutal suppression of anyone who would dare to dissent against the all powerful political elites, the stifling of dissent and political discourse, the disappearance of privacy and the right to be free from unwarranted surveillance, the abuse of terror and security legislation to go after anyone the government deems to be an enemy, the all power executive that can order the extra-judicial execution of anyone, even Americans, and the list goes on.

Empty calls for war and patriotism

Last night perpetual war-monger John McCain gave a speech, just as empty and designed for a brain dead audience, as the recent speech by John Kerry that I commented about. A speech in which Kerry repeated the phrase “we know” 23 times but did not offer a single concrete piece of evidence in accusing Bashar Al-Assad and the Syrian government of using chemical weapons. Kerry’s logic for the dumbed down and brain dead masses was that, we know, I am reliable, they are bad, so you must believe us.

McCain’s was worse, he actually reasoned, I paraphrase: “Obama has decided to go to war, and the congress must support him,” whether they are right or wrong, ”because if we do not we will look illegitimate to the world.” I might remind Mr. McCain that without an imminent threat, which Syria never has and never will, pose to the United States, and without a UN resolution, any attack on Syria will be illegal and a crime against peace.

Delegitimize the entire US Government

McCain’s equation of supporting Obama’s calls to war (another reason why he must be stripped of his Nobel Peace Prize) with a support for the legitimacy of the United States are hollow and false. It is in fact these calls to war against the facts that the world already knows that has already turned the United States into a rogue nation in the eyes of the world. McCain’s speech in support of his president, something he did continually for Bush, may have been designed to terrorize the American people into supporting Obama’s obtuse insistence on attacking Syria, but in fact if the plan works the way they intend, it will then delegitimize the entire U.S. Government. The entire world sees the king has no clothes, so even if the Congress jumps on the bandwagon and says he does it will not make it so. They will also be regulated to the side of the blind.

The world knows, as well as informed Americans, that the opposition in Syria is made up of 90% Al Qaeda type, U.S. backed, funded and trained terrorists. The world also knows that the chemical weapons were delivered to the Syrian opposition by Saudi Prince Bandar and U.S. backed sources. As there is clear evidence of these facts then the United States Government has no choice but to go after those responsible (in the U.S.) and prosecute them to the full extent of the law. This would include the man sitting in the Oval Office, as he refuses to look at any evidence that does not fit with his pre-planned invasion scenario. Without that, any support by the government for another illegal invasion will only lead to delegitimizing the entire state.

Ignoring the elephant in the room

With all of the debate on all of the aspects of Obama’s bellicose rhetoric and calls for an aggressive military strike on Syria a very important fact recently emerged in the world media that is being quietly ignored.

This fact is one that goes to the heart of 9-11 and the entire “War on Terror” paradigm and transcends Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and even the Balkan war. It is the single fact that connects the contested Bush rise to power, the spread and growth of Al-Qaeda and every major event that has taken place since the day when a bankrupt George Bush was saved by the Bin Laden family and Saudi lucre. That fact is one mad Saudi Prince’s desire to be king and a thinly veiled threat to President Vladimir Putin.

With one set of attempted bribes and then subsequent threats to President Putin the entire house of cards has now been revealed and the thread that connects all of the dots has now been exposed.

Bush, the Saudis, Al-Qaeda and global domination

I would put forward, and I would welcome widespread debate and analysis of the facts on this, that Saudi Prince Bandar “Bush” is the key to the historic illegality that has spread throughout the world and the Middle East like a cancer since 9-11 and that it began with the Balkan war and the Saudi support of Bosnian Muslim terrorists. He is the key that ties the U.S. and the American elites to everything from Al-Qaeda to influencing South American oil markets.

We know

Like U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry I would like to offer my own list of “we knows”, with the difference that my “we knows” are based on uncontested facts and with the revelation by none other than Prince Bandar himself, that the Saudis control Al-Qaeda, Chechen terrorists and the terrorists in Syria, that list of we knows is now impossible to ignore. The elephant is now completely filling the building.

We now know that the Saudis do nothing without the backing and okay of the United States. Therefore everything the Saudis do we can say the U.S. is also guilty of.

We know the Saudis control Al-Qaeda, Chechen terrorists, Kosovo Albanians, Bosnian Muslim terrorists and other radical groupings.

We know they (the U.S. and the Saudis) are funding, arming, importing and training terrorists and fighters into Syria.

We know there are reports that Bandar himself delivered the chemical weapons directly to Syrian “rebels”, the same weapons used to launch an attack on the day the UN inspection team arrived.

We know Bandar promised President Putin billion dollar arms deals, and that of course it would be a win-win for the Saudis and the Americans to arm their Al-Qaeda terrorists and insurgents with Russian weapons. Then of course they could pass the blame but that is a minor point.

We know that with the backing and support of the United States the Saudis (Bandar) threatened Russia with a terrorists attack on the most peaceful of international events, the Olympic Games.

Also we know they told President Putin weeks before the “chemical attack” that they would invade Syria.

We know that for over a year the U.S. has been repeating that a chemical attack is a “red line” that must not be crossed and have been continuing to try to show that it has been crossed.

We know the U.S. has no compelling or other evidence that they can present to prove that such an attack was carried out by Syrian forces and that they will do anything to attack Syria to forcibly end the presidency of Assad and the Syrian Government.

We know the UN inspectors were controlled by rebels forces during their inspections of the chemical attacks and so any evidence they present can not be trusted.

We know that Bandar: bought nuclear warhead capable missiles from China, was involved in Iran-Contra, rescued a bankrupt George Bush along with the Bin Laden family, and was so close to the Bush family that he was called Bandar Bush.

We know Litvinenko was involved in funding Chechen terrorists which means he was aware of Saudi ties, which explains why they tried to deflect the attention to Russia.

We know the Boston Marathon suspects were Chechens, used for another false flag event to raise millions of dollars.

We know that after the events of 9-11 the Saudi Embassy was one of the most protected building in the United States.

We know the FBI had evidence of Saudi involvement in 9-11 and that they knew of Saudi connections to the 9-11 “terrorists”. Including direct involvement of a Saudi family in Florida with all of the hijackers.

We know no one has ever been prosecuted for 9-11.

It gets worse. We know that Al-Qaeda was created to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, that Osama Bin Laden was also a CIA asset named Tom Ossman, and that Al-Qaeda was and has been funded by Saudi businessmen and that the Bin Laden family continue to run banks through which Saudi money is laundered. We also know that the Bin Ladens were allowed to leave the United States after 9-11 as well as other Saudis and that a command center for the 9-11 attacks was discovered in Sarasota Florida that was hushed up by the FBI.

By threatening Russia with a terrorist attack, coupled with evidence of involvement in 9-11, ties to Al-Qaeda and more, we know that Saudi Arabia is not only a state sponsor of terrorism but is also a state which uses terrorism as an instrument of foreign policy.

We know that Saudi oil is so important to the United States that they will do anything the Saudis say and visa versa. This includes anything to protect the American dollar being used for global trade in oil. Without which the dollar would collapse. Both Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi both dared to change to the euro less than a day before their countries were attacked. Hugo Chavez was also a proponent of getting rid of the petro dollar system as is Iran.

Russia and China may move away from the dollar in oil trade with Russia already moving towards the Euro making it clear, as the world’s second largest oil producer behind Saudi Arabia, why Russia continues to be an “enemy” to the Americans.

9-11 and the resulting “War on Terror” have allowed for western global militarization and invasions of countries that threatened the petro dollar.

We know that the Saudis hold a trillion dollars in American debt and that makes the United States subservient to their interests.

We know that the Saudi forces and groups are committing war crimes executing Syrian soldiers and even engaged in cannibalism.

And finally, once again, above all else, we know that Saudi Arabia has threatened Russia with a terrorist attack.

It gets worse dear reader and the ties to Saudis, terrorists, and western special services go so far and wide and are so long that it would take thousands of pages to document.

The same people telling you they are protecting you from terror, the record has shown, are in on everything from 9-11, to Boston, to the Syrian gas attack. They have killed and continue to kill millions. The reason? The U.S. wants to rule the world and Bandar wants to be the king. Nothing else matters.

Dear readers, I have received a lot of mail from all of you as of late in response to my efforts covering the Syrian crisis and in particular to work on trying to uncover the true connection between Saudi Prince Bandar "Bush" and terrorism, in light of his threat against President Putin and the Russian people. One of the best and most detailed responses came from an unexpected source, unexpected because I am fighting for peace and this response was from an almost lifetime member of the US military. What he has to say is worth reading, so please let me introduce Joseph Zrnchik a Retired U.S. Military Observer Controller/Trainer who served the United States from October 1981to May 2006 (24 years 8 months) and taught Battle Command Staff Training (BCST), Operational Planning, Tactical Operations Center Training (TOC Training) and Military Decision Making Process (MDMP) Training. Mr. Zrnchik has independently contributed this work for the Voice of Russia. Thank you all, and best wishes. John

The exhortations for government support has worn thin. It is currently great weather in the US if you like to be peed on and told its raining. Not only does the US government have no credibility with the international community, but it no longer has any credibility with any American displaying common sense. The excuses given for attacks on other nations, banker bailouts, NSA destruction of the 4th Amendment and the right to be free of unlawful search and seizure, having the unalienable right of habeus corpus, the institution of police state brutality for the purpose of crushing peaceful dissent, the violations of international laws banning torture, the destruction of the US Constitution with regard to presidential claiming power to assassinate Americans, the death knells of due process, the heinous abuses common people suffer at the hands tyrannical police and the criminals in robes sitting in judgement who now serve the state as opposed to providing justice to the people, all make it clear to Americans that those having any connection with the government are now using government as a means to loot the people and protect their criminal rackets that are being perpetrated on a global scale.

The absurdities, lies and hypocrisies place Washington DC at the pinnacle of human arrogance, hypocrisy and stupidity. As the economy crumbles in the US, Americans stand idly by as bankers and defense contractors steal hundreds of billions of dollars. This is occurring as the government gives perverse justifications for the expansion of police state powers. It is sickening to listen to the corporate media as they refuse to address the medacity of government officials by using even the most basic levels of reasoning abilities. And with many Americans cheering for the government against Snowden, Assange and Manning, it is as if many Americans want their government to lie to them and abuse them. The refusal by the political elite to admit what everyone knows is the truth has finally disgusted Americans to such an extent that the government is now in fear and has emplaced legislation that will shut down the internet, usurp the Constitution and turn America into a full-blown police state with the flick of a switch.

All informed Americans now know the forces fighting in Syria are 90 percent Saudi-financed foreign jihadists of the al Qaeda variety who are being rightfully crushed by Assad and Hezbollah. All informed Americans know Israel wants the US wallowing in the mire of religious and sectarian Middle East violence as they support al Qaeda as a CIA/Saudi proxy terrorist army. All informed Americans know the Saudis have supplied the terrorists with chemical weapons that they have repeatedly used in an attempt to drag the US into war. This war proves Saudi Arabia controls al Qaeda and that al Qaeda can only be defeated by attacking Saudi Arabia. But, the US wants al Qaeda so that it has an excuse to steal more money and liberty from Americans by pushing the US’s Global War on Terror into its second decade. We have spent a decade fighting the global war on terror only to watch Al Qaeda swell is numbers to division level with the entire al Nusra Front swearing loyalty to al Qaeda. The claim that al Qaeda has been attritted to a few hundred world-wide is Bush/Cheney/Obama/Clinton nonsense. We will now be forced to follow empire to its logical conclusion as Americans discover imperial politics benefits the few at the expense of the many. But Obama is being humiliated by the common soldier, sailor and marine as they post social media videos telling Obama they will never fight along side or support al Qaeda who had been killing thousands of American service members in Iraq and killed thousands of American civilians on 9/11.

Obama has decided to shoot his mouth off and attempt to place Americans in the position of supporting Sunni sectarian slaughter. Thankfully people like Rand Paul have placed a check on Obama as he is being forced to confer with congress before attempting to begin the first ever war initiated by a Nobel Peace Prize recipient. The US Congress has finally placed a check on Obama’s radical attempt to expand his executive power, and not a moment too soon. Obama has said he meant what he said about using US military might in Syria, but the US military does not belong to Obama so much as it does the American people whose representatives regarding whether to wage war is the US House of Representatives. The House of Representatives represents the American people and there is no army without the people. For the US Army to expect homage is absurd, because it is the people and not the military who provides the funds, mans the weapons and fights the wars. It is the US Army who owes the American people homage and not the other way around. I say this as a retired Army officer who had served for over 24 years.

Major media networks have played Obama’s and Biden’s speeches criticizing Bush and threatening him with impeachment for attempting to begin the Iraq War without proper congressional approval, without observing the War Power Act and without abiding by the US Constitution’s Article 1, Section 8. How both can now make the claim that the president can act as a unitary executive is rank hypocrisy and makes both look like laughingstocks every time the video is played.

Considering the way the leadership of our military has thrown soldiers under the bus for the political considerations, it is amazing anyone would be so stupid as to further believe anymore of the imperial nonsense spewn by globalists and the corporations they own. These globalist have served to loot the American people as they prove to be a knife to the throat of nations who seek to act in the best interests of their own citizens and in accordance with international law. That the US could excuse itself from the International Criminal Court and disregard the Geneva and Hague Conventions makes one question the intellectual level of any soldier who could believe such obvious lies and contradictions. That people could be made to be so stupid ought to scare leaders who expect soldiers to be able to think for themselves. I question why any American would want to serve such an obscene government.

When one considers how the US Army lied about Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch as it covered for and excused torture and murder sanctioned by senior military officers and government officials like Cheney, Rumseld, Bush, and Alberto Gonzales, this ought to force every American to support politicians who would begin war crimes tribunals. While as they literally engaged in mass murder, torturing to death even Iraqi generals, they were able to throw Pvt. Lyndee England under a bus for "torture" without batting an eye. That all she did was humiliate Iraqi prisoners which brought her years in Leavenworth ought to make people wonder how US officials got away with suffocating Iraqi generals and hanging people backwards by their wrists until death. Yet people remain ignorant, stupid and apathetic.

Look how the military allowed Israel to slaughter dozens of sailors on the USS Liberty as they machine-gunned the severely injured on lifeboats. Look how John McCain’s father, Admiral McCain covered for the Israeli atrocities by whitewashing the investigation thereby ensuring his son’s political future in the Zionist-controlled US political establishment. Not only did the military establishment lie about what happened, but it threatened with treason anyone who would expose the crimes of the elite as President Lyndon Johnson left Americans defenseless while recalling a fighter wing so that Israelis could continue their slaughter of killing injured sailors left on the high seas in life rafts.

One Hollywood movie you will never see is about the USS Liberty. Israeli savagery would make any Jaws movie seem mundane in comparison. All the movie producers would have to do is change the "A" to an "E" and the new horror movie "Jews" would show that there are creatures with less of a soul than a Great White Shark.

With regard to the war in Syria, the US screams that Assad needs to be attacked because he used chemical weapons against "his people". So let’s look at the deceptions here. First, the Syrian opposition is one-third al Qaeda. Those that are not al Qaeda are associated forces collected from across the Sunni Arab world and are militants supplied and funded by Saudi Arabia to wage war against Shiite governments. These forces are illegal under the all international law and The Rules for Land Warfare. These terrorist groups have been caught red-handed using chemical weapons supplied by Saudi Arabia both in hopes of killing Shiites and with the intention to create a false flag situation. The Syrian oppositional forces are made up of only about ten percent of the Syrian population and are hard core Salafist, Wahabbist and Takfiri fighters who in no way represent the overwhelming majority of Syrian society. The other ninety percent come from across the entire Middle East where kings rule lawlessly and democratic movements are always crushed with the utmost brutality. While Assad has asked for talks to save Syria, the foreign fighters have no concern about laying of of Syria to waste.

The US constantly talks about how we need to attack Syria due to its violations of international law while Israel and the US have both used white phosphorous to attack civilian population centers. In the case of the US in Fallujah, the Marines surrounded the city, allowed women and children to flee while holding the men captive in the city and then unleashed a vicious barrage against thousands of non-combatants.

During Operation Cast Lead the Israelis bombed a UN observer post and killed all the international observers so that no one could see the war crimes it was committing as it opened fire on schools and civilian refugee camps using the internationally banned weapon of white phosphorous. When the IDF found it could not defeat Hezbollah, it then began an orgy of destruction targeting civilians and infrastructure in violation of international law. Was there ever a word spoken by the US against Israeli atrocities?

During the Iran-Iraq War, the US supplied Saddam’s Sunni Baathist military with chemical weapons he used to conduct an illegal war and kill 600,000 Iranians. Then, the US lied about the slaughter of Iraqis by Saddam and said the Shiite civilians that Saddam killed in Iraq were killed by Iranian chemical weapons. When Saddam finally had enough of the US and decided he would no longer accept the dollar and sought to use only the euro for oil sales in the Oil-For-Food Program, the US suddenly claimed he had to be overthrown for using chemical weapons against his own people over a decade earlier.

So, how is it that this hypocrisy can be ignored by the mainstream media regarding Obama’s desire to intervene in Syria? In the US Civil War President Lincoln, regarded as a hero by neocons, presided over the slaughter of over 600,000 Americans while the population of the US at that time was only 1/3 greater than Syria. Moreover, this carnage was done with primitive weapons and would have continued indefinitely until the US central government got its way. Yet, in Syria Assad is condemned as a strongman when the deaths in his war are fractionally much smaller even given adjustments for population differences. Assad’s war would have to claim three times what the US Civil War did to be proportionally as deadly. Yet, Lincoln did not face tens of thousands of foreign fighters gathered from across the globe who were supported by the world’s greatest military powers.

In light of Saudi intervention, one also has to consider the implications if it is determined that the House of Saud was in fact behind a false flag attack as many knowledgeable military theorists and analysts admit. And if the Saudi jihadists used chemical weapons to kill Syrians that were provided by Saudi Arabia, and given the Saudi kingdom’s admitting to controlling Chechen terrorists and threatening Russia, would not Russia be within its right to conduct a major attack on Saudi Arabia as Putin has threatened to do after being threatened by a Saudi prince with terror?

That Israel would demand humanitarian bombing for alleged Assad use of chemical weapons because it care about jihadist fighters is so hypocritical that it is sickening. But, one wonders what Israel’s position would be if it was discovered that the chemical attacks were false flag operations supplied by Saudi Wahabbists.

The 600 lb. gorilla in the room that the Western media seems to ignore is that the forces in Syria are Saudi Arabia’s irregular forces that are used as an instrument of Saudi foreign policy. These forces are not accountable to anyone and have absolutely no standing under international law. During all of the Syrian war they have executed every single Syrian soldier and slaughtered thousands of civilians due to religious sectarianism. While the US and EU brand Hezbollah as a terrorist organization, it has not engaged in sectarian slaughter of civilians, is a uniformed force, and has a clear command structure that has acted in accordance with international law.

If Obama decides to attack Syria and it is found that Saudi Arabia is not only funding international terrorism in Chechnya, but supplying chemical weapons to kill Syrians and foment a world war by creating a false flag event, Russia would be completely within its rights to flatten Riyadh and begin an Arabian uprising.

The whole world knows that Saudi Arabia holds on to over a trillion dollars in US debt. The world knows the Saudis seek to maintain the dollar as the world’s reserve currency to the detriment of poor and developing nations. The petrol dollar scheme is a tax the US charges the world as it exports its inflation to the world’s economies. The US can not build a phone or television but can build the most expensive fighters Americans can be taxed to procure. As Americans are taxed to pay for the Department of Homeland Security, we find ourselves funding our own slavery.

As the dollar continues it decline, the world knows that Saudi Arabia can spend its troves of freshly printed hundred dollar bills on only four things.

They are:

Advanced US weaponry

Fomenting civil wars that pit Sunni against Shiite

Suppressing domestic dissent

Trying to buy friends (as in Egypt and the unsuccessful attempt to buy off Putin)

The Sauds will do anything to keep the bankrupt petrol dollar scheme afloat while it holds trillions in US debt. There is an old saying about governments that says: If you owe someone a billion dollars, that is your problem, but if you owe them a trillion dollars, that is their problem. We can see that the Saudis problem is that they are willing to betray Islam and their jihadi fighters in order to maintain their kingdom. Sunnis are little more then useful idiots to the House of Saud. Right now we see the beginning of the end to the defeat of Saudi lunacy in the Middle East and with it will begin the continued advancement of Iran and the Non-Aligned Movement that will provide prosperity to those nations whose governments are not so greedy that they betray their people for Zionist banking interests. The petrol dollar recycling scheme is coming to an end and US hegemony will also end. The elite at the CFR, Bilderburg and Trilateral Commission have already schemed and are willing to have America fall to advance a globalist agenda and New World Order.

Libya should be ample example that anyone foolish enough to become involved in the international loan sharking operation known and the World Bank and IMF will raped by lenders or overthrown for attempting to oppose neo-colonialism and neo-imperialism. Iran’s primary reason for being assigned membership to the "Axis of Evil" by the Bush administration is its refusal to be dominated by Zionist banking. We see the results of Qaddafi opposing the international banking cartel. The US and NATO claimed Qaddafi needed to be overthrown to protect Libyans from annihilation even while half the entire nation conducted rallies in support of him. After seeing the US lies and the Saudi funding of Qaddafi’s opposition from jihadists across the Middle East, Russia and China were not so stupid as to allow Saudi Arabia and the West to attempt this transparent ploy in Syria. It now seems Iran and Russia are both telling Obama that he is risking a serious disruption to the world’s economy and a conflict that has no end in sight and very long-term implications of which nobody can know.

Qaddafi proved to be too much of a forward thinker for the US as he worked to provide an African Monetary Fund and African central bank. He built the Great Man-made River Project that was kept hidden by the media and it was the first thing the US bombed to prevent Libya from being the breadbasket of Africa. The US then ended Qaddafi's RASCOM plan to put an advanced telecommunications satellite in space for a small fraction of what the West was trying to change. Then, the IMF got really mad when Qaddafi stopped the West from looting Africa by paying back IMF loans interest-free to indebted nations to prevent forced austerity sell-offs of resources and infrastructure for pennies on the dollar to Western corporation. This is why the Libyan people now live in lawless squalor. Such was the result of the US backing jihadist fighters.

The US has now begun to lie like the Israelis and the Israelis lie like people blink. The US has blown Iranian airliners out of the sky as in the case of IR Flight 655 and the US media, and to a lesser extent the global media, hid the fact that every single assertion made by the US proved to be a lie to cover up the slaughter of over 290 Iranians. When you consider that the US Navy accidentally shot down Flight 800 and killed dozens of US passengers and to this day continues to lie, threaten and obstruct, it is of little surprise to me that the elite can kill a president as they did with Kennedy and then kill his brother to prevent the crime from being exposed during what would have been a succeeding Kennedy administration. As the world now looks to see how successful Iran will be at suing the US for the overthrow of its elected government of Mohammed Mossadegh, few will hold their breath in waiting for the US for conform to international law. How is it that the US bombings Iranain oil platforms in support of Saddam’s war against Iran can be omitted from any conversation about international law?

As a retired Army officer and American citizen I can tell the world that we Americans are at our wit’s end in dealing with our government. This past week two major media operations were bought by globalist corporate entities so as to continue to stuff lies down the throats of the American people. It seems our elite are leaving the American people with little choice except revolution. As Orwell warned, the lies of the elite ad the reality under which the world suffer are beginning to bump up against each other in what will continue to be a growing Syrian conflict. As the US continues to define this conflict using even greater lies to hide its mendacity, the conflict will continue to spread onto a much greater battlefield. Hopefully the American people will not allow our lying Republican and Democratic criminals to lead this nation into another war.

When Sunni Muslims across the world wake up, they will see that the House of Saud is made up of a bunch of lying, murderous and pretentious infidels whose demise would benefit the entire Middle East. If the House of Saud was ended the entire Middle East could be free of radical jihadists and corrupt US and Zionist influence.

Once the US is defeated in the Middle East and Americans are left to suffer the consequences, Americans will finally realize they can also defeat the government’s tyranny under which we continue to suffer in increasingly greater measure. While this suffering had formerly only been inflicted upon the brown-skinned people of other nations, it is now being doubled down on because force is the only tool the government has and knows how to use, but this too will come to an end eventually. Then America will have a chance of being free again and regaining its lost liberties.

The US government has made itself the enemy of the American people and the nation is ripening for revolution. When the time comes I hope other governments will help American freedom fighters and true Americans will begin trials for treason and crimes against humanity by the criminals who now lead this country.

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A high-level anonymous official with the Libyan Ministry of Defense granted an interview to the Voice of Russia and discussed matters of intelligence surrounding the chemical attack in Syria. After recent threats by Saudi Arabia against Russia for supporting Syria, this area was focused on. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, spoke about the tires between the Saudis and the Bin Laden family and Al-Qaeda terrorists. In the second part of the interview he details how four members of Qatari Intelligence were killed for attempting o undermine Libya’s ability to protect itself. The official’s voice was digitized by associates of the author to protect his identity and it has been verified.

PART 1

Hello this is John Robles; I’m speaking with an anonymous member of the Libyan Defence Ministry

Robles: Can you tell us about that meeting, what happened? What can you tell us about Osama Bin Laden’s brother?

Source: It was a meeting between the Libyan Ambassador and other ambassadors when they were there at security forum. He shook our hands with me and one of my colleagues. He was talking there only English, his Arabic was quite weak. I started talking with him in English and nothing like.. like that. He didn’t seem a very calm person. But he was always going heavily guarded. I don’t know why.

Robles: You say his Arabic was bad but his English was better? Was his EnglishBritish or American?

Source: It was more American. It was more American because maybe he studied in the United States I think for 4 years.

Robles: Is he active now in Al-Qaeda or any groups that you know about?

Source: No, I don’t believe that he is active in terrorist things, but I heard a long time ago from one of the people in the Libyan Embassy that his companies they used for money laundering, by the UAE family, especially Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid. They used this company mostly for money laundering, and the bank that laundered the money are situated in the island of Kish in Iran, between Iran and Abu Dhabi.

Robles: Back to Syria, you’re I think very knowledgeable for this. What is your opinion on these gas attacks, or these chemical weapons attacks, and then there was another supposed attack a few hours ago. Do you think this is all being fabricated? What’s your opinion on these attacks?

Source: I think it is very unlikely that he must use such weapons, especially when the whole world media looking at him. He didn’t use them in the beginning of the war, he didn’t use them a year ago, he is not going to use them now. He is receiving lots of infantry support from Hezbollah and from Iran and from groups in Iraq, and he is getting the upper hand, and because maybe he is getting the upper hand that’s why the support for Al-Qaeda and the rebels are bound to use a new strategy to undermine him.

Robles: He was winning against these so-called rebels.

Source: Absolutely, he’s taking the upper hand, and he’s controlling very well, and I don’t think they can keep for more than another 4 months. Militarily speaking as a man of military I mean in the army, I consider the rebels can hold on for another 3 or 4 months maximum at this stage.

Robles: So you think they will be, these so-called rebels, they will be defeated in about 3 or 4 months?

Source: Yes I believe that.

Robles: So this is why the US is so urgently trying to invade the country right, or launch air strikes?

Source: Exactly.

Robles: What can you tell us about the groups in Syria now, the different groups? Where are they from, who’s controlling them, and how many of these are like real rebel or opposition forces in your opinion?

Source: The main rebel groups are from Libya, Pakistan and from Tunisia. These are the main groups we know about especially from both Libya we have a whole list of them they are from ethnic (unintelligible). The Libyan groups are amixture of Algerian and Tunisian groups and they come from Derrida, Derrida which is an area, a very contested area between Libya and Algeria

While the Pakistani groups are groups that have, that are supported by Saudi Aabia. In fact I remember reading in one of your newspapers where the speaker of the Taliban was thanking his Arab friends for some support. This gives us an idea who the Arab friends are.

Robles: So the Taliban, he was thanking his Arab friends, or his Saudi friend?

Source: He just mentioned the Arab friends.

Robles: In your opinion this would be Saudi Arabia controlling these or or Egyptian.

No, I don’t think that the Egyptians had anything to do with that, absolutely,even at the times of Hosni, or now, or even at the time of Morsi, they had always a passive role, they never believed in supporting terrorist groups because they are afraid that these groups might propagate inside Egypt. They never had support either financial,nor militarily, nor even politically. Just a passive role.

Robles: So the main sponsor here is Saudi Arabia and Qatar then?

Source: Saudi Arabia and Qatar, yes. They had an incident about 8 months ago. I shouldn’t talk about it but I will just tell you. There are four members of the Qatari Intelligence came to the new military base here, the air field base in Tripoli, and they had a meeting on how to organize the Libyan military. There was a quarrel with our generals who refused all points. The four members of the Qatari intelligence left the base and they were shot by rocket propelled grenade, at 200 metres outside the base, and I remember that… I know the person who gave the order and then they were killed.

Robles: Wow. And they were trying to organise the Libyan army for what, to go into Syria,or do you know any details of that, what they wanted?

Source: No, the organization was meant to make it fragmented and weak. They refused to, for example, support the Air Force or create a tank division. Our military wanted to create 4 tank divisions and include an Air Force with10 to 15 active planes, and they refused those two points, they wanted just brigades andinfantry.

There was a big quarrel and then there was a big fight and I remember I received a call from one of my colleagues and he explained to me what happened and he said we shot them all. And I knew when he said he had shot them all,I know what he meant.

Three days later there was an attack on the Saudi Embassy here, and the UAE Embassy and the Kuwaiti Embassy, underlining the strategy that these 3 or 4 countries, they operate together just like one front and now all 4 embassies are closed.

Robles: Which four countries? I think this is important. 

Source: UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Robles: Now listen, my last question, regarding Syria. What is the real objective in Syria?

Source: There are two known objectives we know about. One is weakening Russia’s influence in the Middle East, that’s one thing. The second thing is for fixing the Israeli borders, that’s for sure. By weakening, they are weakening all the armies in the Middle East so they don’t pose a threat to the Israeli National Security.

These are the two main points that’s why they are creating a (unintelligible).Everything … what happened isthat they are out of control. They thought they couldcontrol it, they thought they could make a quick transition like the one that happened in Egypt and in Tunisia, and they believedthat the coalition that Bashar Al-Assad has only 200 or 300 supporters. While in reality,believe me I’m not trying to be supporter of his family, he has about 70% of the people. He is a very respected man because he lives a very quiet life. He doesn’t take a strong active role into the politics actually, he just tends to mend the social problems of the system,and he was trying to improve things.

Robles: Yes, I’ve seen Bashar al-Assad, I’ve seen him talk, I’ve studied him a little bit, and he seems like a very intelligent, even quiet and I think genuinely peaceful man. That’s my opinion of him anyway.

Source: Exactly. No, no that’s the main opinion. He’s a surgeon, graduated in the United Kingdom, and in the UK they followed him during his 5 or 6 years in university and he never caused any problems. He’s not an extravagant bloke who goes to pubs or drinks. He lives a very quiet life, he’s been an academic all his life, and even as President he neveroffended any country, even face to face. They tried to give the picture to the world of this monster, but actually it failed, because watching him talk you realize that certainly he is a true politician. Even in Libya here, even amongst the revolutionary people, people who took part in the Libyan revolution we have supporters, lots of supporters.

Robles: How will an armed conflict in Syria spread to the other countries in the Middle East, and how is this going to be a threat to the United States and to Israel? Worse than anything that could possibly happen right now, people are talking about this could possibly lead to World War Three. What’s your opinion?

Source: In my opinion that doesn’t pose a threat to the United States. It poses a threat possibly to Israel. The Arab states will lose complete control over their future, and this can lead to a full-scale war, at least not now but in 2 or 3 years, and the outcome of it. That’s why the West is being very cautious about it, because Iran will intervene, the Shia in Lebanon will intervene, then the Sunni will intervene, the Druze will have to go into the war. Even the factions who have nothing to do with the fight- the Druze and the Christians - they’ll be forcefully into it and it will create a complete mess.

Robles: I see.

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The world community’s reaction to the American's desperate fanatical drive to war in Syria, which seems matched only by the irrational violent and insane behavior of the Syrian-liver-eating-opposition, has left Washington looking like a desperate schoolyard bully looking for a little kid to beat up for his lunch money. Only this time the bully has Tomahawk Missiles and is hiding in an "armored car".

Russian reaction

Russia’s reaction has been unified and unwavering since the beginning of the conflict and the latest escalation has seen some of the harshest statements so far to come out of Moscow.

The Official Spokesperson for the Russian Foreign Ministry, Alexander Lukashevich has stated that Washington’s statements threatening to use military force against Syria unilaterally are unacceptable.

“Given the lack of evidence, any unilateral military action bypassing the UN Security Council, no matter how limited it is, would be a direct violation of international law and would undermine the prospects for a political and diplomatic solution to the conflict in Syria and will lead to a new round of confrontation and victims,” Lukashevich said.

In the official statement Mr. Lukashevich stated that: "Instead of executing the decisions of G8’s summit in Lough Erne and subsequent agreements to submit comprehensive report from experts investigating possible cases of use of chemical weapons in Syria to the UN Security Council, in the absence of any evidence, we hear threats of a strike on Syria.”

Lukashevich emphasizes that even "US allies" are calling to wait for the completion of the UN chemical expert group "in order to get an unbiased picture of what really happened and decide on further steps in terms of the Syrian crisis.

On Friday Russia welcomed the British Parliament's rejection of military action against Syria and warned that such an attack without UN approval would deal a major blow to the existing world order.

President Vladimir Putin's Chief Foreign Policy aide Yury Ushakov said the British vote showed growing public understanding of the dangers of an attack against President Bashar al-Assad's regime.

"This reflects the opinion of the majority of the British and Europeans. It seems to me that people are starting to understand how dangerous such scenarios are," Mr. Ushakov said.

For some the United States seems to be behaving like the brutal owner of a dog who beats his pet into submission and understands nothing but violence and force. US President Barack Obama, rather than encouraging dialogue, diplomacy and intelligent debate has decided unilaterally, as he put it to “teach President Assad a lesson”.

NATO will not be providing support

The latest defection from America's war lust has been NATO, with Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen officially stating that NATO has no plans to join the United States in military action in Syria and that such an intervention would require the approval of all 28 full NATO member countries.

Unlike the military aggression in Libya most of the European countries have failed to support the latest urgent attempts by the United States to launch an immediate military action against Syria.

U.S. Secretary of State provides no proof

US Secretary of State John Kerry, gave a lackluster speech on Friday, the beginning of which was delayed for more than an hour. Kerry looked pale, resigned, gaunt, lacking any kind of enthusiasm and was almost robotic in his delivery.

His speech, which was no doubt intended to cement and inspire a drive for war in Syria, was unconvincing and left one, from the start, waiting for expected evidence which was never presented.

During the speech Mr. Kerry robotically used the phrase “we know” 23 times, the phrase “I know” once, but the key word the world was waiting for, “proof”, was never to be heard.

As for the “evidence” he cited the “high confidence” of the "American Intelligence Community" and evidence available on the internet.

He stated that the United States Government would not repeat the “Iraq moment” (A whimsical and lackadaisical sounding way to name war crimes and war lies) with the only difference so far being that no evidence has been presented whatsoever. No yellowcake, no 45-minute-WMDs, no satellite photos of chemical weapons trailers and supposed weapons and chemical production sites, no outrageous shocking witness statements, nothing. Just endless rhetoric and statements, after which one almost expects to hear, "You believe me don't you?"

Calls for adherence to international law and UN standards

The UN is currently investigating and rather than waiting for the United Nations to complete the investigation the U.S. continues to drive for an invasion and is willing to do so unilaterally, or as they call it some kind of "limited bombardment" to complement their "humanitarian" aggression. Many countries have called for calm and for the United States to wait for the conclusion of the investigation, for a UN Resolution and for adherence to international laws.

UK Parliament and impassioned speech

According to British MP George Galloway from the Respect Party citing public opinion polls, in an August 29th speech, only 11% of the British populace supports the UK participation in going to war against Syria. This is compared to 6% of Americans.

Britain has put it to a vote, but the U.S. seems to be simply waiting for the imperial president to give the order, gone are the days of Congressional votes and declarations of war, just the "decider in chief" and his whims.

During the impassioned speech Mr. Galloway repeated the Labor leader Ed Miliband’s statements that there was no compelling evidence that the chemical weapons attacks that had taken place in Syria were the responsibility of President Bashar Al-Assad.

He stated as being ridiculous the US assertion that the Assad regime was “mad enough” to launch a chemical weapons attack on the very day that they had allowed UN chemical weapons inspectors into the country, and furthermore were insane enough to do so right in Damascus.

The MP made the very astute observation that if such a madman was ruling the country, what would he do if the West launched a barrage of Tomahawk Missiles?

The esteemed Mr. Galloway wondered aloud at the emergency session of the UK's highest government body, the UK ‘s House of Commons, as to why if Mr. Assad was such a monstrous madman, he had been allowed to be a guest at Buckingham Palace just a few years ago and why he had been recommended for an honor and hailed as a modernizer.

He said the narrative had changed because someone had decided on regime change.

He cited the unease of the people as being due to the fact that they can see the character of the Syrian opposition. he mentioned the Syrian opposition leader who had filmed himself cutting open the chest of a Syrian soldier and eating his heart and liver, and the sawing off of the heads of Christian Priests. Just some of the facts causing terror in memebers of all 23 minorities in Syria, of what will happen if the opposition wins.

Finally he asked the body when it was that Russia and China’s "2.5 billion" people had ceased to be members of the international community and who the US was to unilaterally decide to invade a country if they could not even convince the UN Security Council of the need for a military operation.

More evidence of U.S. and terrorist involvement in attack

In light of evidence that the chemical weapons were delivered to the “rebels” by Egypt and that the attacks were carried out by these same “rebels”, as well as recent threats against Russia by Saudi Prince Bandar to President Vladimir Putin over Russia’s support for Syria, it is time the world took a long hard look at who the real “madmen” here are.

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A high-level anonymous official with the Libyan Ministry of Defense granted an interview to the Voice of Russia and discussed matters of intelligence surrounding the chemical attack in Syria. After recent threats by Saudi Arabia against Russia for supporting Syria, this area was focused on. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, when asked if he could verify admissions by Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan that he controlled the terrorists groups in Syria, including Chechen terrorist formations, stated that this was true. The official then stated that there were rumors in the Libyan Defense Ministry that it was actually Bandar who delivered the chemical weapons from Israel to the Syrian insurgents and that it was Israel who was pushing the United States for a military attack on Syria.

Hello! This is John Robles, I’m speaking with an anonymous member of the Libyan Defense Ministry.

Robles: Hello Sir! How are you?

Source: I’m fine, thank you.

Robles: I’d like to ask you some very serious questions regarding, first, the Saudi involvement in the Middle East, in particular with regard to terrorist organizations and formations. Can you tell me anything that you might know about US and Saudi involvement with terrorist formations in Libya and how they might be operating in Syria?

Source: Well, most of the organizations that have been working here have been; not eradicated, but rather exiled to the eastern part of Libya. That’s where they are most active.

In the western part of the country criminal activity is very low, but in the eastern part – Benghazi, Derna, Tobruk – the criminal activity is quite high and most of these are extremist groups, funded mostly by Qatar, more than by Saudi Arabia.

Robles: I see. Would you say these are US-backed groups?

Source: It is possible that they are backed by the United States because these groups do not operate without their consent. Saudi Arabia does not operate without the consent of the United States, because they consider any move from Middle Eastern countries to be a threat to their national interests. So, they ask first advice and then permission.

Robles: So, all the countries in the Middle East, they ask the United States for permission before they do anything, is that what you say?

Source: Exactly! Especially after the invasion in Iraq most Arab countries have felt they are under threat. In fact I remember in 2004 there was a meeting between Arab countries and we were present there, it was near Tripoli. At that time there was Gaddafi and he received a letter during the meeting and jokingly he said “the fax from America just arrived”. But it was more a confession than a joke, I think.

Robles: Do you know the contents of that fax?

Source: No, we weren’t allowed to see any of those documentations.

Robles: I see. But this happened all the time?

Source: It happened all the time. In fact, most of the meetings were attended even by foreigners, non-Arabs.

Robles: And these were meetings between Libyan defense officials and who else? Who was present?

Source: Libyan defense officials, interior ministries of all Arab countries. In fact, all the Arab countries have a unified protocol in case of protests, in case of “cracks”in their governments. The recent Saudi aid in Bahrain and the recent financial support by Qatar to Kuwait under crisis, this shows that they are unified. And most of the Gulf countries have been pressuring for Hosni Mubarak to be released. And Saudi Arabia gave no support for our liberation from Gaddafi, nor to the Tunisians against Ben Ali.

Robles: Saudi Arabia gave no support.

Source: Absolutely no support and in any case.

Robles: What I’ve heard, I'm very concerned about reports that Saudi Prince Bandar, he threatened Russian President Vladimir Putin that he would release Chechen terrorists at the Sochi Olympics. And during part of the conversation which was released, which I’m sure he thought would be secret, he admitted and he said that they control Chechen terrorists, they control the terrorists in Syria, according to his words. Is that true?

Source: Yes, I believe that is true. Some rumors were spoken here in our Defense Ministry that the nerve gasses, that the chemical weapons used against Syrian civilians were brought by Bandar from Israel and given to the rebels. I don’t believe that Assad used chemical weapons against his own people.

Robles: I don’t think so either. So, the rumors have it there that the chemical weapons that were used in Syria, that actually Bandar was involved in this and they came from Israel, originally?

Source: Yes, those are the rumors. And who benefits from this? Mostly Israel. They are the ones which would want it in fact more than the United States.

Robles: What about Saudi Arabia? What is Saudi Arabia’s role then in the Middle East? What are their goals? Is this religious or is this oil?

Source: It is neither, I think. They just follow the orders. From the oil’s they give only 11 million barrels. They have no natural gas resources. And from the religionthey are mostly conservative closed in their areas.

And as the continuing Shia fight, Syria is now 85% Sunni. So, there is absolutely no role. They just provide what the American and British governments want, that’s all.

Prince Bandar is just under something that’s been in force for many years, I think for all his life. He wants the throne for himself and maybe he thinks that allying with the United States that they might help him to become the king of Saudi Arabia. But it is very difficult because there are about 5,000 princes,and only 40 are eligible and he is out of the race for that part.

Robles: So, Prince Banda, his ambition was to become the king?

Source: Exactly! His father, late father, was the heir to the throne, but he passed away a year ago, Prince Sultan. But because his mother is from a legitimate background, not from a royal background, he is not eligible to take the throne, even if he is the eldest son.

Robles: I see. But he was supposed to be helped by the United States or has that been stopped? Or what is going on?

Source: Exactly! He is trying to buy their graces so they might pressurize the Saudi Government to let him be heir of the throne, something which in the Arab world we know about.

Robles: That’s not something most of the rest “us” know about. So basically, what you are telling, I mean, this is pretty shocking. You are telling me that, basically, every country in the Middle East is following the US’s instructions.

Source: That’s what it is essentially especially in the Gulf countries. Before the revolution maybe Russia had a greater influence over North Africa, France over the Maghreb countries from Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and so on. But after the revolution mostly the Americans have gained upper hand from this point of view.

The real battle is between Russia and America. Thetwo superpowers that control most of the region. And the Russian economy has been speeding up in the past 8 years and this is something (for the first time in which) the American administrationhas no say.

Robles: And the US economy has been going down, and it’s in a very dire state right now. Can you tell us a little bit about what you know about the Muslim Brotherhood? What kind of an organization is it?

Source: Looking first at the origin of the Muslim Brotherhood, it was formed in 1940 by the British Government as a form of response to King Farouk who did not like the British occupation of Egypt. They were supported, they were funded, they were trained and they were armed.

President Gamal Abdel Nasser joined them when he was 18 years old, because he was a very strong Muslim conservative and he thought they were nationalists. But after two years he left them, found them very radical and their focus on supporting political candidates. So, nothing related to religion.

They had a strong development under the dictatorship of Gaddafi, Ben Ali and Hosni Mubarak. They became a radical armed force. Prior to the revolution they became more popular. In the civil protests they gained the respect of the people as a solution against dictatorship. But after one year people in Egypt and Libya found them more oppressive, than the previous dictators. The recent changes in Egypt show that that armed forces were actually called upon by the people.

Robles: You said the Muslim Brotherhood has no religious agenda.

Source: They have no religious agenda at all, because in Islam something called a political party, political religion is a violation of the Islamic law in principle. It is the way the Hezbollah and all other political factions related to religion – they just want to gain massive support. But in Islam itself religion and politics should not go hand by hand.

Robles: I don’t know if you are aware of these threats by the Saudi prince against Russia. Do the Saudis really control Chechen terrorists, in your opinion?

Source: Yes, even long ago, even the Bosnians. The Bosnian war you know,in the Balkan war, the Bosnian actions were supported and funded by Saudi Arabia, because the opposing side, the Serbianside was supported by Russia. And this is something everyone knows.

It is very difficult toopenly say that - I’m going to support Chechen terrorists against Russia – because that would be a violation of international law. And I don’t believe the Chechens are ready for this, nor they believe in it.

Robles: OK, what do you think about this now, this would technically make Saudi Arabia a sponsor of terrorism?

Source: This is something which everybody knows. I mean,the Bin Laden family they are still operating normally. Osama bin Laden was never questioned in Saudi Arabia and he was never considered a terrorist at all. And most of the money that is going to terrorists held in Iraq are all from Saudi Arabia and all from Qatar.

Robles: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Source: I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Tarek Bin Laden about 5 years ago in Dubai.MrTarek Bin Laden, Osama’s brother.He had an office near the palace, and I met him by chance through another Saudi Mr. Mohammed Dohteri, his lawyer. And I saw this man was always going heavily guarded, but like he is distanced from the family. He doesn’t seem like someone who is very religious or something like that, on the contrary. So, I don’t know what kind of family, not a loving family, he’s a member of the family.

Robles: Can you tell us about that meeting? What happened? What can you tell us about Osama bin Laden’s brother?

Source: It was a meeting between the Libyan Ambassador and other ambassadors when they were there at security forum. He shook our hands “with me and one of my colleagues”. He was talking there only English, his Arabic was quite weak. I started talking with him in English, and nothing like like that. He didn’t seem a very calm person. But he was always going heavily guarded, I don’t know why.

Robles: You say his Arabic was bad but his English was better. Was his English British or American?

Source: It was more American.

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In an interview with the Voice of Russia, a high-level anonymous official with direct working knowledge of the United States missile defense system stated that the system allows 30-40 percent of all missiles to get through and is highly ineffective against small missiles.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, when asked if he could verify admissions by Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan that he controlled the terrorists groups in Syria, including Chechen terrorist formations, stated that this was true.

The official then stated that there were rumors in the Libyan Defense Ministry that it was actually Bandar who delivered the chemical weapons from Israel to the Syrian insurgents and that it was Israel who was pushing the United States for a military attack on Syria.

The official stated that all countries in the Middle East were controlled by the United States except Syria, Iran and for the most part Lebanon, with US representatives normally present at all meetings between the leaders and heads of the Middle East states.

The source also stated that it the ambition of Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan to become the King of Saudi Arabia, that drives him to do whatever the US asks of him as he needs their support to make him the king. His mother is not of royal lineage so he is ineligible to be the king.

The official explained the urgency of the United States and US President Barrack Hussein Obama to invade Syria as being due a drive to diminish growing Russian influence in the Middle East and surprisingly as revenge for Russia’s refusal to hand over Edward Snowden.

He stated that Russia’s growing and prospering economy and the US’s ever weakening economic condition is causing countries in the region to look towards Russia and this is unacceptable to the US administration.

When asked about the Muslim Brotherhood, he stated that since its creation by MI6 in the 1940s it had been under the control of the West and was in fact in no way a religious organization. Under several dictators over the decades the Muslim Brotherhood has become a radical armed force.

When asked if the Saudis in fact really controlled Chechen terrorist formations the official revealed that even during the Bosnian War the Bosnian Muslims were controlled and funded by the Saudis, who are controlled by the US and that the Bosnian War was also staged to weaken Russian influence in the region.

The source said he had met with Osama Bin Laden’s brother and that the Bin Laden family were still operating in Saudi Arabia. He added that Osama Bin Laden was never questioned or impeded in Saudi Arabia.

As in Iraq and other post-US-invasion countries such as Afghanistan and Serbia, the United States through its surrogates in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who said is also sponsoring Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups operating in Syria and the Middle East, attempted to instruct the regulate the reformation of the Libyan Army. Qatar attempted to persuade Libya to forego plans for tanks divisions and air-force formations and insisted that Libya merely maintain a small fractured army so it would not pose a threat.

When asked about Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad the official said that he was a very peaceful and intelligent man who limited his own role to dealing with the social circumstances and well being of his people. He said the West’s attempt to portray President Assad as some sort of mad dictator were ridiculous and that there was no way he would ever have launched a chemical attack on his own people in an area that was completely under the control of the Syrian forces. Especially since President Assad is winning.

The urgency of the US attacking is also due to the fact that, as he said, the Syrian insurgents and terrorist forces cannot hold out anymore than 3 or 4 months, they have effectively been almost beaten. The fact that the West has spent millions funding and arming and training these groups makes their urgency that much more pressing.

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The whistleblower who outed an MI6 plan to assassinate late Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi spoke to the Voice of Russia about what is going on behind the scenes in Syria. Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad would never use chemical weapons as he knows the whole world is watching and he is winning the war. Former MI5 officer Michael Shayler also said the British foreign intelligence service MI6, is a law to itself and does not have to be held accountable to the British people. This is part 2 of a larger interview.

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This is John Robles. You are listening to an interview with David Shayler, a former MI5 officer and a whistle blower in the UK. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at voiceofrussia.com

Robles: They want to invade Syria. And it seems to me, they are trying to fabricate a pretext to go in there. What do you think about that?

Shayler: Yes, absolutely! This is a total pretext. When you study these world things, you realize that these people are made out to be madmen, like Gaddafi and Saddam, and Assad, and so on, are not actually madmen at all. And they often are much better in their behaviour because they know the West is watching.

In the recent years, I can tell you, there are two countries went abroad and killed two million people, from other countries, used things like phosphorus and used depleted uranium, i.e. chemical weapons which are banned, who’ve used cluster bombs – and that’s the UK and the US. They are your two terrorist organizations in the world who’ve got a record for using chemical warfare.

There is no way in a situation we have with Assad at the moment in Syria that he’d want to use chemical weapons because he is actually beating the rebels. He knows the US and the UK are spending a fortune on backing these rebels, and they’re getting nowhere basically. So, he wouldn’t use chemical weapons now. The Russians are saying they have no evidence of chemical weapon use here.

And we know, in the past going to wars they’ve used any kind of stuff they can as propaganda. Remember in 1991, when we had this girl who came on and addressed the US Congress and said “Oh yes, Iraqi soldiers have been taking babies out of incubators and killing them”, and all this kind of thing. And it turned out that she was somebody of the opposition or something, and it all just turned out to be setup.

So, I cannot believe that we have politicians who are perceiving this seriously at the moment. People like William Hague, he should be on trial for war crimes, I mean, hanging really is too good for him.

I’m a man of compassion and everything else, but a politician who comes out there and constantly campaigns for war and loss of innocent life that will lead to, and never seems to learn from it. He is just a psychopath, you know. And we’ve got to get rid of those people’s from our government. It’s as simple as that. In fact we’ve got to get away from Government altogether, let’s adopt the common law and stop paying our taxes to these people because it’s gone on long enough, it really has.

Robles: What do you think about the ridiculous hypocrisy of Barak Obama being awarded a Nobel Peace Prize?

Shayler: Yes, I mean, you couldn’t make it up, could you? You really couldn’t make it up. It was just, it was 1984 that it’s happening in reality. I say if it wasn’t, you know if it wasn’t so serious we’d be laughing at it like a Monty Python sketch.

You go to the UN, sorry you go for the Nobel Peace Prize, and you use that opportunity to announce you’re going to send troops, more troops into Afghanistan. I mean, these people are taking the piss, they really are, and what I can’t understand is why, you know, the public out there can’t see that.

It’s like with the banking system, they’ve just printed 400 billion new currency. It took 350 years for the National Debt to get to 300 billion in the first place, and we’ve created more debt than we’ve ever created in history and people are now being asked to pay that back, even though that money didn’t go to the wider economy. How can they do that?

Robles: You mentioned 1984 and sometimes it seems to me like they’re actually channelling this, or using 1984 as a blueprint.

Shayler: Yes, I agree. In terms of the way they are changing the meanings of words, and everything else, it is almost like they’ve seen Orwell and that’s the blueprint they’re following.

If it’s not that one it’s the … you know if people talk about the Protocols being a forgery, but I don’t know if anybody can dispute that they’re following the agenda this hour and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, basically. Talking about using recessions and depressions to deprive us of our wealth, and off-the-record of briefings to blacken the names of their opponents. It’s all there in the Protocols, what they’re doing now, whether that’s a forgery or not.

Robles: Yes, do you know anything about MI6’s involvement in Syria.

Shayler: Well yeah, basically MI6 is obviously our foreign service. I’m not any more; I’m not in the services any more so I don’t know exactly what they are doing, but what I will say is because of the “Hangover of Empire” and because of our close relations with the Americans, MI6 does have a very active role overseas.

MI6 is virtually a law unto itself, it’s not like the security services of say the US, like the FBI and CIA, who are subject to Freedom of Information, MI6 is completely exempt from that. In fact, MI6 is in effect exempt from all forms of oversight, a bit like Mossad is with the Israeli State, basically.

It’s go and get on with it and do what they’ve got to do to, to what they see reflects the world. Of course, it not reflects the world, it reflects to their power that they police, but that’s more or less what we’ve got with MI6 in the Middle East. It’s got enormous amounts of influence.

But I do hope in this situation, so I would hope that there’s people in MI6 now, telling William Hague and David Cameron that they’ve lost their marbles, that to go into Syria risks the start of the Third World War.

Now, obviously sane people don’t want that; the powers that be behind the scenes do: these evil bankers, and so on, and you can see exactly how the agenda is unfolding. But people like William Hague and David Cameron are not part of that agenda - they’re not signed up to it - they’re just idiotic dupes, that’s the problem.

Robles: In your opinion how will this ignite a wider conflict?

Shayler: Well, it will be like when the First World War, do you remember the First World War began with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in Serbia, by a Serbian nationalist. And because there were various alliances between countries like Russia and Serbia, and so on, that they set off a whole sort of domino effect of people that had treaties with each other, and that started the First World War.

Now, the powers that be in Europe wanted the First World War, although they didn’t declare that at the time, particularly in Britain. Nevertheless, that was the excuse that was used when, to start this, you know, mindless conflict basically, and you can feel almost exactly the same thing happening with Syria: if the Americans attack Syria, then the Russians are going to have a problem, the Iranians are going to have a problem, the Chinese are going to have a problem.

Now, I don’t think any of those countries have any appetite for the Third World War in the same way that America does, so I think that that’s what works in our favour with all these things. But, given the fact the situation is all going wrong for them at the moment - more and more of their stuff is being exposed left, right and center - America is in a desperate situation, so you cannot rule out the fact that it will carry out that attack and it could escalate.

But I’m saying to anybody who is listening to this, they should be telling their MP, their Congressmen, or anyone who represents them, that if they are involved with this in any way they’re a war criminal, and if this does turn into a Third World War with millions of deaths, hundreds of millions possibly of deaths, they will have blood on their hands basically

Robles: I see. Now what happened in Libya with Muammar Gaddafi? Would you care to comment on what actually eventually happened and how he was killed in street?

Shayler: Gaddafi had been an enemy of the West since 1976, when he nationalized the Libyan oil industry at the expense of British Petroleum, and obviously you get on the wrong side of the oil industry, that’s the problem. That’s why they went after him, nothing else, not because he’s a dictator or anything else, it’s because he’d obviously, as they saw it, caused loss to British commercial interests.

There had been several attempts on his life, one of which one of them I’d blew the whistle on. So you can kind of see who wants to get control of Libya, it’s a key strategic point in North Africa, it’s a relatively rich country by African standards. And what I did in 2011, I just watched it on the mainstream. I thought what I want to do, I won’t go on the Internet, I’ll just watch this and see what happens, as all this Libya stuff was happening.

Because there’s no coherent explanations, why somebody who for years and years was our enemy, then became our friend, suddenly was our enemy again.

Also around the things now I realized that Gaddafi was trying to sell his oil in gold-backed Libyan Dinars, and therefore the same fate awaited him as awaited Saddam, because once you start selling your oil in anything other than Dollars that would immediately provoke an almost overnight collapse of the American economy because you need Dollars to buy oil, and if you don’t need Dollars to buy oil, there is no need to have Dollars at all, so nobody would use them. And so, again, they had to take Gaddafi out, in the same way they took Saddam out, nothing to do with anything other than his threat to finance and the American economy.

Robles: I thought it was a strange coincidence that, I think it was like 18 hours before they invaded Iraq, Saddam Hussein had decided to change the oil trade into Euros, and in Libya the same thing happened.

Shayler: Yes, exactly, well yeah yeah, no you’ve got to realize, I mean people say this is all about oil, and it is about oil in one sense because oil is part of the control mechanism, you need fuel. It also is to do with the fact that we now live in this crazy world economy, in which nothing is really worth anything apart from the faith behind it. But once you take away that faith, the whole thing collapses, it’s not backed by gold, or silver, or anything else basically.

So we are going to see more and more wars like this if people threaten the economies of the West. I say the economies of the West are extremely weak at the moment, they really really are.

Robles: In your opinion what is the real goal in Syria, is it resources, or …?

Shayler: Well, I think it is a part of this wider agenda, in terms of creating a Third World War, and obviously there are reasons about it, it’s all part of the control mechanism, they can take control, even the way in which the society can handle it, taking even more rights away. They realize, I say, their whole system is teetering at the moment, many people have woken up, and so on.

If they can create the Third World War, then put all those people in prison camps, then they won’t be there to influence other people again, basically, and that I think is part of their agenda. It’s part of the wider, and again I am going to use the word Zionist - I’m not talking about Jews here, clearly Judaism is a religion - Zionism is a political idea, and to me it’s all what’s set out in terms of the Zionist agenda. They want to create a United States of Europe, with a Zionist king on the throne, and then as stated a Greater Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates, basically, and obviously if you look at that geography Syria is one of the countries in the way, basically.

Robles: I see, I see.

Shayler: Oh I can tell you something very interesting as well, is that, when I was in MI5 I once saw the European Intelligence Assessment Report that had been circulated. Under the bottom of it, it had writing in Hebrew on it. So I asked someone: “why has it got Hebrew on it?” And this guy told me, he said, and this was when there was only something like 15 nations in Europe, he said: “The Israelis consider themselves as part of the European Union”. They get all the directives. They’ve got no representation there, but the government gets all the European Directives, and stuff like that, so that they can implement them so they can be like Europe basically.

Robles: Wow!

Shayler: Yeah. Can you believe it? I had no inkling of that at all at the time, and I’ve not seen any more about it anywhere else since. But that was in MI5, they were one of the people copied in on European Assessments, because they considered themselves to be a kind of de facto member of the European Union basically.

Robles: I see, and a lot of people were saying Israel is behind all of the conflicts in the Middle East, and directing things behind the scenes. I mean, they’re buying Iranian oil. Is it realistic, I mean, if they cause all this instability, if they destroy all these countries basically, and send them into chaos like Libya right now, Iraq - is that in any way going to help Israel? Or do you think that’s going to put Israel as a state at further risk?

Shayler: Well, you see, it depends on your view of the world, doesn’t it? Obviously, if they weren’t running the world then they would be in genuine risk through all this stuff, of Israel coming under attack from Al-Qaeda basically, who are represented in various countries around Israel.

But the fact that that doesn’t seem to be part of their plan, that risk isn’t in there, it rather suggests to me that this is neither control or conflict, and actually the people who are back in places like Syria, and Lebanon and so on, and that they’ve got them under control, and that’s why they know there’s no at risk of those people then going into Israel, because they’ll then just take them out.

So, to me, this is all evidence to the fact that they could unroll this program without any risk to Israel because they’re backing all of the rebels that have appeared in countries like Egypt and Syria, and so on, in the last few years.

Robles: I see, so what can you tell us about Al-Qaeda’s link to the West, to the CIA, to MI6? I know they were …

Shayler: Can I tell you something about MI5, certainly is that what people don’t realize, something else I was blowing the whistle on was, in the mid-1990s they had declared Al-Qaeda to be the new flavour of the month after the collapse of Communism. But what they were doing, even though they were saying this was a new terrorist threat, they were letting lots and lots of veterans of things like Afghanistan, and so on, who were what they would think of as Islamic extremists, and actually tens of thousands into the country.

Now, these people were there to look at what was going on now basically. So it’s like they let all these people in to create the new terrorist threat to the West, basically, and allowed these people to live in Britain, and the CIA has called us Londonistan basically. But I was one of the first people to blow the whistle on that, and again people in the government didn’t take my evidence at the time, and I’m saying to them: “I was going to tell you that in terms of effectively, at the very least turning a blind eye to allowing these people in to create the new terrorist threat, basically, if not obviously actively encouraging it”.

You are listening to an interview in progress with David Shayler, a former MI5 officer and a whistle blower in the UK.